April 6th 2022 Call
Intros
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Quick round of intros
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Recommended to drop a post in Introductions (come in, say hi) say hello and also talk about what you contribute to!
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If you wanna get involved in the ‘core team’ then take a look at this post https://discourse.opensourcedesign.net/t/open-source-design-core-team/888 anyone is welcome
Anybody have topics they want to discuss?
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Two folks wanted to ask about: Experiences of us as open source designers in the community with tools and processes and fixing UI problems? or “Tell us a story about a successful interaction between your design work on an OSS project where you had to collaborate/communicate with engineers” and the inverse (a negative interaction). "
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Eriol told a story about doing Exploratory research in Open Food Network
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Jan told a story about… (sorry @jdittrich I fully lost my notes on this!) but also wrote: this write-up: https://www.fordes.de/posts/CulturesUXOpenSource.html
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Bernard told a story about contributing mermaid graphs to Joplin: https://github.com/laurent22/joplin/issues/6100
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Matthew told a story about working with technical devs (I think I got this right but please correct if not!)
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Comments in the chat:
- “give us wireframes” ← When OSS asks for this not always a good ask! follow up question of: Do they ask for “wireframes” without any other discussions?
- i think a lot of the product development approaches for mvps or even launches are development first
- customer support: indeed, great source!
- Did their job posting say “Design Wizard” maybe?
- These conversations are also a direct reflection of where Design “sits” in the project or organization. If Design comes in from the top of the project (founder/referred “wizard” or “sorceress”), then the pain is a bit different.
- Interesting point of view since there is some research on projects being hostile towards design and HCI because they are not doing “Real contributions”
Steffen Kotschi says: There is a beautiful example of I think it was handbrake, where usability issues were closed because it’s an expert application and users are supposed to be able to handle bad UX in this context - there is always some truth in that statement, since design mafia often treat design like a holy grail
- Design can definitely put itself on a pedestal or create an ivory tower situation.
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Saptak recommended: https://sosdesign.sustainoss.org/18 might have some good insights where we talked about developer and designer contribution
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Eriol Recommended: I did a mini casual talk about onboarding designers in some of the projects I worked in: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R6IVuWoz3H8&t=516s
Fellowships/Internships for Designers (+Developer!) in FLOSS
- more info here: https://discourse.opensourcedesign.net/t/continuing-conversations-about-fellowships-internships-in-open-source-design/2722/10
- @Erioldoesdesign has contacted Sage from outreachy to re-intro to the topic and also some Simply Secure interested folks.
- @jdittrich has done amazing thinking + writing in the post above
Action points and to dos
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@Erioldoesdesign Draft a form for FLOSS projects to tell us what they might ask a designer (+Developer) for during an internship period.
- Be sure to ask about roughly what tasks they want done
- Be sure to ask what time frame they’d want the fellow/intern for
- Not too long a form!
- On OSD’s Nextcloud
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Consider a survey also for designers about how/what they want from an internship/fellowship in FLOSS
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@Erioldoesdesign Invite Sage to May’s call ← Done!
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@Erioldoesdesign Find a time that works between interested folks from Simply Secure & @jdittrich and other fellow/intern interested folks
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@Erioldoesdesign and @ei8fdb and @SaptakS to find time to do a ‘hack day’ with a spreadsheet and go through all known internship/fellowship FLOSS programs and make a ‘matrix’ of what happens in these typically and what we think we want to leverage.
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FOSDEM + FOSSBackstage + Mozfest + other? articles/summaries from these conferences need writing!