FOSDEM 2020 Open Source Design organisation

Hi Amit. We had a discussion in the past (like Belen is saying) and the conclusion then was to move away from the GitHub discussions on issues, and focus on the Forum.

Now, the discussion was for issues, not for tasks and projects boards. If you think this would increase our productivity level, we could try it. But, it still means that we would have this split between the forum and GitHub, plus there are not that many people involved in the organizing of the Devroom, so maybe we don’t need a project board yet. So I have mixed feelings, but if you think we should try it, IMO we could. The main benefit of using those board would be to know exactly what is still left to do and ask for volunteers for it.

Thanks for working on the CfP.

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Yes.

That is my main reason for trying out project board. Even with just a few people trying to coordinate the devroom it can be useful for everyone to get an idea about the status of tasks.

In case of times where we feel like one person might be unable to complete a task on time or not being responsive it’ll be easier for others to jump in and get it done.

And for things like the CfP or other things that we need a consensus on I can copy the relevant info onto discourse.
The difficulty with discourse-like thread I imagine would to be find the correct post with the latest updates.

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Hi @amit.lzkpa

Thanks for putting the CfP together: looks good to me. If nobody else comments by the 10th, feel free to release it to the world :slight_smile:

If I am not mistaken, the CfP should be emailed to the FOSDEM mailing list and it should be published on opensourcedesign.net. Then we use the Twitter account to make some noise about it, and we individually promote it within our own circles.

Everybody else: please correct me or add if I’ve forgotten something!

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Alright!
I just sent it out.

@victoria-bondarchuk @evalica @belenbarrospena
Please let me know your email IDs if you wish to be included in the CCs.

How do we update it on the website?

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Great! :slight_smile: Thanks, @amit.lzkpa

I’ve just realised that I didn’t specify which FOSDEM mailing list the CFP should be sent to: it needs to go to fosdem@lists.fosdem.org, which is the public mailing list. If you are not subscribed to that one, and you don’t want to subscribe, @ei8fdb or myself can send it.

About the website, we need to create a new entry in the Events section for the 2020 CfP (https://opensourcedesign.net/events/). Here is last year’s as an example

https://opensourcedesign.net/events/2019/02/02/opensourcedesign-fosdem-2019

If you need help with this, please do let me know. We’ll be happy to help with this as well.

Thank so you much for the great work so far! :slight_smile:

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Since nobody voluntereed to organise the OSD stand at FOSDEM :_( I have gone ahead and submitted the application myself. This is what I sent (pretty much the same as last year):

Stand Request for FOSDEM 2020

We acknowledge that we have received your request for the following stand.
After we review all stands requests, we will inform you accordingly via email.

Project: Open Source Design
Coordinator: Belen Barros Pena
Coordinator email: belenbarrospena@gmail.com
Secondary contact: Bernard Tyers
Secondary email: bernard@ei8fdb.org

Description:
Open Source Design is a community of designers and developers advocating human-centered and participatory design processes within free and open source software. We understand “design” in a broad sense, and our community includes interaction designers, content experts, design researchers, information architects, graphic designers, usability and user experience professionals, and of course software developers. What we all share is the conviction that engaging users in the process of developing software results in better software.

Our stand will be running a “design clinic”, an informal one-to-one set up where you can sit down with a designer to talk about your FOSS project, ask questions and seek advice on diverse aspects of design, from usability testing to typography. Our volunteer designers have a mix of skills and experience, both in commercial and FOSS projects.

Coordinator’s affinity to the project:
I have been involved with Open Source Design since its inception. I was the main co-ordinator of the first and second devrooms in 2015 and 2016, and have been closely involved in the organisation of the subsequent devrooms. I also co-ordinated the Open Source Design stands in 2018 and 2019.

Why does it fit FOSDEM
Open Source Design has been present at FOSDEM since 2015, when we organised our first devroom. Our sole purpose is advocating human-centered design within FOSS. Our devrooms have been well attended, and we have seen strong demand for design contributions.

Over the past two years, the stand and the design clinic have given us the opportunity to engage more actively with projects, and have created opportunities for stable and long-term collaborations between designers and FOSS projects. We would like to repeat the activity in 2020.

Project website URL:

Project logo URL:

Project contact email address:
core@opensourcedesign.net

Source code location:

Relevant URLs:
Twitter: https://twitter.com/opensrcdesign
Forum: https://discourse.opensourcedesign.net/

Days:
both

Theme:
Other

Number of tables:
One

Special requirements:
None

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And since it’s bucketing down in London and you can’t really go anywhere, I’ve also published the CfP on the website (https://opensourcedesign.net/events/2020/02/02/opensourcedesign-fosdem-2020) and sent it to the FOSDEM general mailing list (https://lists.fosdem.org/pipermail/fosdem/2019q4/002896.html).

Which means we can go and tell the whole world about it :slight_smile: Please spread the word!

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Thanks!
I’d already sent it to them on the same id.

It’s great you volunteered for the stands.
Kudos! :clap::clap::clap:

That sounds like a very london weather…:cloud_with_rain:

Hey all!

I was catching up with the devroom mails and don’t think there is anything there that we need to discuss yet.

The pentabarf system is new to me so having some difficulty getting my head around that.
So far I see 3 talks submitted to our track this year:

They all look incomplete or someone testing it out.
I can see one was by @belenbarrospena. Not sure about the rest.
Please let me know if that’s incorrect.

For spreading the word:
This is the list I have collated so far from previous year’s threads:

@ei8fdb
Do we need a common list so we can ensure we don’t spam any of the lists?

Besides these please let me know if there’s something I need to be aware of.

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I read through some of the github issue conversations from previous years and it was awesome (and scary) to see all the discussions and planning around this!

Regarding the planning and talks:
I remember the panel discussion from the devroom last year. I think that was really cool and what do you all think about having the same again?

Looking at the tentative schedule from 2016 I suppose we would again have time for 17 talks/sessions(20 mins each).
The last one was for the shout outs which I think is awesome and I say we reserve a slot for that.
In the remaining 16 slots what does everyone think about having 1 or 2 panel discussions again?
Some topic suggestions:

  • How your workplace manages designers working with developers and what OS can learn from it.
  • Design research methodologies and how we can make the insights more accessible to non-designers.
  • Inviting some OS project maintainers to ask where they see design fitting in their project.

I haven’t ever organized a discussion like so and would be great to hear from you all about your experience with it from last year.


Editing this post because discourse doesn’t let more than 3 consecutive posts.

Follwing over the tradition of copying over @evalica’s awesome checklist.

Have only partially updated it and will copy it here once done.

Also I thought it’ll be a good idea to open up a thread for brainstorming for the devroom to everyone on the forum.

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Hi @amit.lzkpa

You are right that for now there is not much to do :slight_smile:

I think the main task at the moment is to promote the CfP to make sure people know about it. That checklist with mailing lists to contact is great: maybe we could all add to it and simply tick the checkbox whenever we have sent the email to one of them. I’ve tried to edit the list to add one more item, but I don’t seem have an “edit” option. Am I missing something?

Don’t worry about Pentabarf: it is a bit of a strange beast. By now @victoria-bondarchuk @evalica and @ei8fdb are experts on it! :wink:

About the panels, I think it’s a great idea. To make one happen, just make sure you submit the session to Pentabarf. I would personally be quite interested in the one about research methodologies and would be happy to help with that one.

And about the brainstorming thread, by all means start one! It’s always good to have a place to bounce ideas :slight_smile:

All sounds good!

I had to change the setting to make the wiki publicly editable.
Just did that. It should work now.
Let me know if you gibe it a try.

Only people that organize the room have access to those links, so we cannot see them, just for the record. That’s why, when we will do the voting session on the talks, the organizers will need to copy the submission details for the voting (in a spreadsheet or a voting system).

Regarding the count: you’ve mentioned 3 talks. I’m curios if you’ve seen my talk submission too. I know Belen did some tests for the Usability Test Workshop in Berlin, so some entries need to be deleted / ignored.

Besides the mailing lists we also created a tweet (or multiple, from time to time) on the opensrcdesign handle. Found it: https://twitter.com/opensrcdesign/status/1183002464108339200

IMO the panel was really nice, but we need to find someone to organize it. Usually the person that is submitting the talk handles it. This year I want to give the “UI/UX Tips&Tricks” talk. Also, we try to involve as many people and as diverse as we can, so, if possible, 1 talk per person.

In terms of ‘traditions’ we usually have 2 entries:

  1. the 12:00 talk about our community. Should we do it again? Ideally besides the introductory / get to know us things, we also do status updates: and we have some new nice things, like the ApacheCon, the Usability Workshop, etc. From what I understood @jan will not be available for FOSDEM, so is someone else interested in organizing it?
  2. as you’ve mentioned, the “Developers looking for designers? Show off your project!” slot that we have at the end.

Regarding the checklist, we should have it here, in a comment or somewhere, but it would be great to have it filled, which checks for what is already done, so we should know where can we help.

Great work, Amit! Thanks for handling all this.

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Hi amit!

I’m sorry for my lack of input over the last while. I’ve been very busy and distracted by other things. Well done on handling things so far. It seems like you’re a natural. :clap: :wink:

The pentabarf system is new to me so having some difficulty getting my head around that.

Yes Pentabarf is…a unique animal. What you have to do as a devroom manager is not at all clear until you’ve been explained how to use it. So don’t think it’s you.

Last year I was so grateful to @victoria-bondarchuk for shepherding me through its dangers.

Right now as @belenbarrospena said we’ve not got anything really to do with it, except every week or so check on the number of submissions.

When we need to accept/reject talks we can do it together. How’s that?

So far I see 3 talks submitted to our track this year:

https://penta.fosdem.org/event/edit/9369
https://penta.fosdem.org/event/edit/9268
https://penta.fosdem.org/event/edit/9258

They all look incomplete or someone testing it out.

https://penta.fosdem.org/event/edit/9268 above is a test submission we created during a workshop at ApacheCon, so it can be ignored. @amit.lzkpa can you try to delete it from Pentabarf, as I’ve not got the necessary rights yet.

The other 2 are real submissions.

I have asked the FOSDEM devroom manager list to get admin access to this year’s Open Source Design (OSD) Pentabarf, but not succeeded yet.

Do we need a common list so we can ensure we don’t spam any of the lists?

In terms of spreading the news, this is something that we’ve all shared in the past. My main places for advertising the devroom has been in 1) mailing lists and 2) twitter.

How I’ve done 1) is:

  • identify the lists I feel are relevant
  • contact the list owner/maintainer, explain I’d like to promote the devroom on the list with 1 email. If they agree I subscribe and advertise it. I then stay subscribed in case people ask questions

It would be great if we could all identify 5-6 mailing lists/communities to promote the devroom too to spread the work.

For promoting it on twitter I have a few tweets I schedule every few days and then send then using Tweetdeck (I :heart: Tweetdeck!).

What does everyone think about taking 5-6 mailing lists/communities to promote the devroom?

If anyone has better ideas or other suggestions, I’d love to hear them.

Looking forward to Brussels in February!

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I remember the panel discussion from the devroom last year. I think that was really cool and what do you all think about having the same again?

I’ve heard from a number of people that they thought it was good. If others agree also I think it would be a good session.

@amit.lzkpa I think your topics are good options. Personally I really like the 1st and 3rd option - though all 3 would get good discussion. For the 3rd option, I think it’d be good to contact some maintainers to invite them to be part of it and see what they say.

Anyone here got some burning questions or topics for panels?

The last one was for the shout outs which I think is awesome and I say we reserve a slot for that.

Do you mean this one - Developers looking for designers? Show off your project! - Open Source Design job board in person?

Yes that is a “staple” session to finish off the day, I think it’s a good idea to continue with it. What about others?

I had to change the setting to make the wiki publicly editable.
Just did that. It should work now.
Let me know if you gibe it a try.

Yep, it works now :slight_smile: I’ve just added the Libre Graphics Meeting mailing list.

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I can’t find any talk under your name :face_with_monocle::
I just realized you are Ecaterina!


These are all the talks.
First by @ei8fdb, second by @belenbarrospena and third by you.

For voting, Pentabarf has the public voting system, right?
And if I remember it correctly the voting is open to everyone?

I don’t think we can delete it. I’ve marked it as ‘rejected’ for now (only 9268).

Sounds good! :smiley: :+1:

Let me know if I can help in any way.

That sounds like a great plan.
I’m reaching out to a few folks I’ve been in direct contact with and will look into the lists.
5-6 by each of us can be great. I am targeting to have sent 5 of them by 20th this month.
On the wiki I also have a page called Spiels (with the irony intended). Feel free to copy/add/edit!
If you’ve got the body for what you send to the mailing lists it would be helpful.

:raised_hands:

Yes!

@amit.lzkpa

The test talk is called “my first 6 months on the board”. I didn’t submit it - it was a test from apachecon a few weeks ago. This talk can be deleted.

second by @belenbarrospena and third by ecaterina and has no abstract.
I’m guessing they all get deleted.

The 2nd and 3rd talk can stay, as they’re real talks from @belenbarrospena and @evalica.

For voting, Pentabarf has the public voting system, right?

For our voting we use a simple spreadsheet. We use this to vote and count the votes as Pentabarf is…alooooot of work.

And if I remember it correctly the voting is open to everyone?

Yes correct. Everyone can vote, however you cannot 1) vote for your submission, 2) vote for only 1 or 2 - you have to vote for the majority of the talks so we can fill the sessions fairly.

We had a discussion about voting before last FOSDEM.