# First impressions, part two

**URL:** <https://discourse.opensourcedesign.net/t/first-impressions-part-two/147>\
**Category:** Forum feedback\
**Created:** [May 4, 2017, 3:12am UTC](https://discourse.opensourcedesign.net/t/first-impressions-part-two/147 "2017-05-04T03:12:37Z")\
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**Author:** ![grahamperrin](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex029/user_avatar/discourse.opensourcedesign.net/grahamperrin/32/62_2.png) [@grahamperrin](https://discourse.opensourcedesign.net/u/grahamperrin)\
**Post date:** [May 4, 2017, 3:12am UTC](https://discourse.opensourcedesign.net/t/first-impressions-part-two/147/1 "2017-05-04T03:12:37Z")

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Continued from [First impressions (preview)](https://discourse.opensourcedesign.net/t/first-impressions-preview/37)

## First impressions: mobile

Monday 24th April: [https://goo.gl/photos/c37kqkxrmxsfFrpy6](https://goo.gl/photos/c37kqkxrmxsfFrpy6) – forty-nine screenshots.

Some of those not logged in (NLI) and logged in views led to:

> **[Mobile – Android, iOS: if home defaults to categories (or latest), then a...](https://meta.discourse.org/t/mobile-android-ios-if-home-defaults-to-categories-or-latest-then-a-switch-from-year-to-week-causes-the-higher-menu-selection-to-change-from-top-to-categories-or-latest/61621)**
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> Top, defaulting to Year: After switching from Year to Week: Environment At /admin/site\_settings/category/basic desktop category page style is Categories and Latest Topics – I wonder whether the style that’s intended for desktop use...

– reported a couple of days after the discovery. If you’d like to know when the fix become available, please watch [Categorisation, tagging, default appearance - #26 by grahamperrin](https://discourse.opensourcedesign.net/t/-/21/26)

Also:

[https://archive.is/8LY97](https://archive.is/8LY97)

> … more than one welcome message …

Please ignore that observation. After the topic was deleted by Discourse Meta, I realised that one of the two messages (neither was opened by me) was genuinely a personalised _Welcome!_ from me.

### Outstanding

From last week’s collection, the more significant impressions were these:

#### Categorisation

Cross reference yesterday’s [post 29](https://discourse.opensourcedesign.net/t/categorisation-tagging-default-appearance/21/29) under _Categorisation, tagging, default appearance_:

 ![](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex029/uploads/opensourcedesign/original/1X/ef41a1947576889b890a7e0cf5ef7b8835208baa.jpg) ![](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex029/uploads/opensourcedesign/original/1X/d9de7deeb3ef39d8104905d148a12ddce37dcb28.jpg) ![](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex029/uploads/opensourcedesign/original/1X/8c9f4f396f2e324a3ff62fe8c3196e4c98a118c6.jpg) ![](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex029/uploads/opensourcedesign/original/1X/c5682279afe16e435e274dc85c8fce9f00f0e855.jpg)

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**Author:** ![grahamperrin](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex029/user_avatar/discourse.opensourcedesign.net/grahamperrin/32/62_2.png) [@grahamperrin](https://discourse.opensourcedesign.net/u/grahamperrin)\
**Post date:** [May 4, 2017, 3:27am UTC](https://discourse.opensourcedesign.net/t/first-impressions-part-two/147/2 "2017-05-04T03:27:26Z")

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## Browsing from one topic to the next

> [@First impressions (preview)](https://discourse.opensourcedesign.net/t/first-impressions-preview/37/3):
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> … a useful feature, but not when there’s so little content. …

@evalica I span off to a 2013 topic in Discourse&nbsp;Meta:

[https://meta.discourse.org/t/how-does-suggested-topics-work-and-how-can-we-improve-it/2316/56?u=grahamperrin](https://meta.discourse.org/t/how-does-suggested-topics-work-and-how-can-we-improve-it/2316/56?u=grahamperrin)

– join me there, if you like.

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**Author:** ![grahamperrin](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex029/user_avatar/discourse.opensourcedesign.net/grahamperrin/32/62_2.png) [@grahamperrin](https://discourse.opensourcedesign.net/u/grahamperrin)\
**Post date:** [May 13, 2017, 7:08am UTC](https://discourse.opensourcedesign.net/t/first-impressions-part-two/147/3 "2017-05-13T07:08:16Z")

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## First impression of a Twitter view of the ‘About’ text

The first visible line:

- is superflous
- promotes the forum in a way that is, I think, **unnecessarily&nbsp;constrained**

 ![](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex029/uploads/opensourcedesign/original/1X/ae994f68cae518fad286cc7e728c820770987e61.png)

– someone who is neither a designer nor a developer might turn away.

ASAP please: can you reduce that text? Be ruthless. Skip the word ‘community’ (that’s implicit), and so on. Maybe change it from:

> We are a community of designers and developers pushing more open design processes and improving the user experience and interface design of open source software.

– to something like:

> promoting more open design processes • improving the user experience and interface design of open source software

– Unicode U+2022 for the bullet.

I’d like to tell how it will appear in future tweets.

If you need help finding it, for edition: it’s the text that appears at [/about](https://discourse.opensourcedesign.net/about) and (yes) you might cringe at the drop from uppercase to lower for the p in promoting, but I suspect that people will more often see the text in the context of e.g. tweets.

> [@Bootstrapping the Open Source Design Discourse community - TODO list](https://discourse.opensourcedesign.net/t/bootstrapping-the-open-source-design-discourse-community-todo-list/24/26):
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> I’ll make some more.

(I’ll refrain. Prefer Tweets to look better.)

## Related

> [@Building this community (this forum): defining and stating its purpose](https://discourse.opensourcedesign.net/t/building-this-community-defining-and-stating-its-purpose/23):
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> From READ ME FIRST: Getting Started (for site staff), the first of four points under Building your community: Define your community’s purpose in a pinned or banner topic. Whilst that Staff area is limited access, I’d like that point to be open to the public for discussion. Examples of Discourse presentation of statements of purpose A few hours ago I stumbled across this: For this forum, that type of banner might be effective during a period of transition. Something short and swe…

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**Author:** ![grahamperrin](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex029/user_avatar/discourse.opensourcedesign.net/grahamperrin/32/62_2.png) [@grahamperrin](https://discourse.opensourcedesign.net/u/grahamperrin)\
**Post date:** [May 13, 2017, 9:45pm UTC](https://discourse.opensourcedesign.net/t/first-impressions-part-two/147/4 "2017-05-13T21:45:36Z")

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> [@grahamperrin](#):
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> … that text? Be ruthless. …

In the designUX room at Matrix, I invited [@rosecheval:matrix.org](https://matrix.to/#/@rosecheval:matrix.org) to be ruthless towards my suggested change.

[Her response](https://matrix.to/#/!blHeuKmYNNfIqDlWGO:matrix.org/$14947092841102572imSDm:matrix.org), quoted with permission:

> grahamperrin: I see your point – to design truly effective software for end users, any community needs users/testers/support folks as much as designers and developers. … here are my suggestions:

> > **We are a community** promoting more open design processes. • **We are dedicated** to improving the user experience and **interaction** design of open source software.

> `<Changes in bold>` “Interface design” is a somewhat dated term. Alan&nbsp;Cooper pioneered “interaction design” in the late 90s, and over time it’s become the standard. I do think it’s important emphasize the community part!!!

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**Author:** ![simonv3](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex029/user_avatar/discourse.opensourcedesign.net/simonv3/32/15_2.png) [@simonv3](https://discourse.opensourcedesign.net/u/simonv3)\
**Post date:** [May 14, 2017, 6:07pm UTC](https://discourse.opensourcedesign.net/t/first-impressions-part-two/147/5 "2017-05-14T18:07:42Z")

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I think that’s a pretty good pull quote.

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**Author:** ![grahamperrin](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex029/user_avatar/discourse.opensourcedesign.net/grahamperrin/32/62_2.png) [@grahamperrin](https://discourse.opensourcedesign.net/u/grahamperrin)\
**Post date:** [May 20, 2017, 5:51pm UTC](https://discourse.opensourcedesign.net/t/first-impressions-part-two/147/6 "2017-05-20T17:51:25Z")

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I think, no need for the full stop (.) where the bullet punctuates.

How about:

> A community promoting more open design processes • Dedicated to improving the user experience and interaction design of open source software

> <https://github.com/opensourcedesign/organization/issues/89#issuecomment-302910892>